June 15, 2025
Hot Rod Heaven: The 50th Lone Star Street Rod Association
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The rumble of engines, gleaming chrome, and stories spanning generations fill the air as we broadcast live from the Lone Star Street Rod Association's 50th Anniversary State Run in Granbury, Texas. Father's Day weekend provides the perfect backdrop for this celebration of automotive passion that bridges past and present.
Our first guest, Steven Rogers, exemplifies this connection with his beloved 1966 Chevrolet truck. For 31 years, this vehicle has been his constant companion – from high school daily driver to weekend cruiser. "It was in good shape when we got it. We've done things to it along the way," he shares, detailing upgrades from the original 283 engine to a 350 small block and the addition of an overdrive transmission to better handle modern highway speeds. What makes Rogers' story particularly poignant is how he's successfully passed his passion to his teenage children, who now eagerly anticipate this annual gathering.
Between guests, we explore the fascinating history of hot rod culture, which emerged primarily from post-WWII California as enthusiasts modified pre-war cars for increased performance. From traditional T-buckets and Deuce coupes to modern interpretations with advanced technology, the hot rod community continues to thrive by balancing innovation with reverence for automotive history.
Our conversation shifts to the current automotive landscape, including concerning recalls affecting major manufacturers and how buying priorities have evolved across generations. While older enthusiasts often selected vehicles based on engine options and modification potential, today's market reflects different values – raising questions about the future of automotive individuality in an era moving toward standardization.
Throughout the park, fathers introduce children to the joy of motorsports and mechanical tinkering, ensuring these traditions continue despite industry changes. The event isn't just a display of remarkable vehicles; it's a community sharing stories, techniques, and the universal pleasure of automotive creativity.
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Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast.
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It's the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show today, coming to you from the Lone Star Street Rod Association State Run in Granbury, texas.
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We have attendees lined up and you'll enjoy a few minutes with each of them and we'll have our popular features as well.
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So we hope you'll stay with us for today's three hour bonus show.
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Howdy Along with Mike out of this world Mars.
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We always need more.
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Jeff Zekin, chief Engineer David Ainsley, got out of bed and joined us this morning all the way up here close to North Texas and Dallas and that area.
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I'm, don Armstrong, glad you could join us.
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It's a beautiful day here in Granbury Texas, supposed to get up to, I think, about 92-ish this afternoon, but we're going to be out of here by then.
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We've got a three-hour show chocked full of goodness all about cars.
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Today we're going to focus on hot rods, restomods and things that may be in your past and may be not, but I think that you'll really enjoy today's show.
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As we come to you live from Hewlett Park, we're celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Lone Star Street Rod Association.
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Glad that you could join us, and happy Father's Day weekend to everybody as well.
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We're not going to worry about parades and riots and any of that sort of thing today.
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We have us, we are the riot.
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We're the quiet riot.
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Yeah, that's it.
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See that Mars is showing a little hair on his chest this morning.
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Apparently he's feeling a little randy this morning Is it, randy, that's our next guest.
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Oh, it's our next guest.
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Never mind.
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He's away from home today, so our first guest over here is Steven Rogers.
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He is the owner, fine owner, of that 1966 Chevrolet.
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Were you even born when that car or truck was made?
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I was not.
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You know how did I?
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I just kind of got that feeling.
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But I got it as quick as I could.
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Yeah, good.
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That was my first one.
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Really you have more than one.
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No, that was my first vehicle.
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Oh, it was yes, sir, when you learned how to drive.
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Yes, sir Gotcha.
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Wow.
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Drove it every, every day in high school and, lucky enough, that I've been able to hang on to it all these years.
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That's the original one you drove in high school.
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Yes sir, 40 years ago.
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I've had it 31 years, but it didn't look like that.
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You just progressively got it.
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It was in good shape when we got it.
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We've done things to it along the way, the whole drivetrain everything out and uh, you mean it doesn't have a six cylinder in it?
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No, it'd never have a six cylinder in it, it, it never did.
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I drove it 22 years I guess, with the uh 283 and three speed on the column yeah and um since then has switched out for the uh 700 r4 and little overdrive, so I don't have to scream so many RPMs to keep up with traffic and the motor is Got a ZZ4 in it.
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Now what is?
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the ZZ4, if I may ask.
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The ZZ4, the 350 small block.
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Gotcha.
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It was the hot stuff 20, 30 years ago.
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Well, I'm sorry, I can't pause for the national anthem.
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You can turn down the deal, but at any rate, well, it's a beautiful truck, thank you, and you've done some work to it.
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I've done a little bit, excuse me, it needs everything.
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Wow Like what.
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Excuse me it.
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Just after Dad and I worked on a lot of things and kind of, he made a comment of you know that we're about out of stuff to do to it and I said all it needs is everything.
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Now Start over.
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Just start over with a full frame off and redo the whole thing.
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Why it's a 30-foot truck right now?
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You get close to it, it's got stuff.
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But you drive it yes sir.
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Well, that's the most important thing as far as I'm concerned, and that's why it may not be anytime soon that that thing gets torn apart and redone why it may not be anytime soon that uh, that thing gets torn apart and redone.
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well, some somebody that has a little experience in that regard um, I bought a brand new 1977 corvette.
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Well, that wasn't good enough.
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So, um, I had to have the big, expensive paint job put on it and, uh, redid the interior.
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It only had like 30 000 miles on it.
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It Redid it all Right Biggest mistake I ever made, because then I couldn't drive it Mm-hmm yeah.
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And that is one of the beauties of it right now is that I can just throw my chairs and whatever in the back of it and away I go.
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Where are you from?
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Live up in Little Elm area Okay.
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About the other side of dfw from here.
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Yeah, so this is.
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This is a nice little.
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Did you drive down this morning?
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Uh drove down uh yesterday okay so you stayed in a motel last night.
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Yes, sir, travel lodge didn't stay in the back of the truck or anything.
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No, no, that's good yeah, I've uh those.
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Hopefully those days are behind me.
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Yeah yeah, I, I hear you Well, so you drove it obviously.
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Yes, sir, from Little Elm down here.
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How'd it do?
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Did good, yeah.
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And have you ever checked the gas mileage on it?
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I'm afraid to yeah.
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You got those jets opened up a little bit on it.
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Yeah, it's probably a little fat Is it carbureted.
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Yes, sir, carbureted it is carbureted.
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Okay, so you haven't gone the injection route yet.
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Not yet.
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Yeah.
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Is it in the offing?
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Maybe it's in the back of the brain, but it's not one of the top priorities, it's one of those of you know kind of like anything else of time and money and do I want to invest in figuring out a new?
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thing?
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Yeah, exactly, and if it doesn't flood and it starts all the time, why?
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Right now it'll bust right off, and it puts a smile on my face.
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Have you always been a car guy.
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Yes, sir, you have.
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Is this your only one?
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That's my only one.
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That's not your daily driver, though.
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No, sir, no, sir, no, sir, not anymore.
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It got retired when I was about 18 or 19.
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Really.
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Became a toy at that point.
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Yeah, and Clearly garage kept.
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Yes, sir.
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Yeah, I was very fortunate that mom and dad had a place for me to keep it inside and while I was off being dumb in college and learning about life.
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Learning to be dumb.
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Yes, practicing a lot of practice and just until I kind of I won't say I ever grew up, but until I got to a point where I had a house and a garage of my own.
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You see this right here.
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We haven't grown up, no, well, no, that part of us never goes away, I think so.
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Is that your wife over there?
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No, sir, that is a lovely lady that hangs out with me a lot oh.
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I'm so sorry.
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No, it's good.
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Well, welcome to the show.
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And now he's going to be a big star and you'll be getting fan mail and all of that through the In Real Time Car Talk Show.
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Probably from prisoners.
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But yes, fan mail, there's that.
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Do you attend this all the time?
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Yes, sir.
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You have how many years now?
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This is probably seven or eight for me, is it?
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Well, you're not far behind us.
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I think this is our third or fourth, fourth, I believe fourth, yeah and uh, it's been.
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It's been a real joy because, um, this is hot rod heaven here, yes and um, you know, when you say hot rods, it has a complete different meaning for everybody, and so I thought well, you know, I think I need to do a little research in the background to hot rods and basically it came post-World War II, that's when the whole hot rod movement started, mainly out of California and, as you can imagine, they were pre-World War II cars.
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That guys went into the Army and said you know what?
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This doesn't have enough hot rod-ness to it, hot rod-ness, hot rod-ness.
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And so we need to, you know, pump up the horsepower a little bit, take those ugly fenders off of there, put some big tires on it and take it to the drag strip.
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There's a few of those here.
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We saw some coming in just like that.
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There are.
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And then you've got the tank, the belly tank cars.
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Is there one?
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of those here.
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No, no, no, but you brought.
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Yes, triggered that for the hot rods there.
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Yeah, so I assume that you have fallen into the hot rod culture.
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Yes, and all of these old guys have maybe brought something.
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You're thinking, hmm, I could put that on the truck, mm-hmm.
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I could make that change to the truck.
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There's always You're always stealing ideas.
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There's always a wish list, for sure.
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Yeah, and always great ideas, and it never fails me of all the years that I've been doing this is that I'll see somebody pull in.
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I'm going man, I sure like that go talk to the guy who's always willing and able to talk, and pull ideas from him and then come up with my own concoction and somehow put it on the car truck or whatever it is that I'm driving at the time, so you've kind of fallen into that as well.
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Yes, sir.
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Very good.
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Yep and trying to hopefully pass a little bit of that along to my kids.
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How old?
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Are your kids 14, 15, and 16.
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Oh yeah.
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So two of them are still in bed across the street at the hotel.
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They're not not real soon, not real early, getting up and going.
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Well, that's all right.
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So obviously you've indoctrinated them into the hot rod culture.
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I'm doing my best.
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Well, I think you're doing a fine job.
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I haven't met them yet, but they they were going with.
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Well, it is Father's Day weekend, okay, dad.
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They actually the last, I guess after the first or second year that I think my first year I came was by myself.
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The second year I brought the whole family and they.
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After that first time they were hooked and every year since they've been asking Dad, when's Granberry, when's that show again.
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Really.
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And so they, the kids are a big driving force behind making sure that we're here every year.
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Have you taken them into any motorsports events circle track, racing, drag racing anything, not a whole lot we have done.
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I feel like I might have failed a little bit because I I grew up around the dirt track and then, um, you know, just realized that it was just probably within the last year the first time I even took them to a drag strip or anything.
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And they've been around this stuff all their life, sure, um, it just realized when, when we went to, went to the drag strip, and like holy cow, this, holy cow, this is the first time I've brought y'all out here.
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I feel like I've failed a little bit here.
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Well, guess what?
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You better hurry up because it's all fixing to go away pretty soon.
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You know that, yes, it is yeah, both of my daughters.
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I drug them to every car event that there was known to man.
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Oh, dad, it's another car show.
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Yeah, you want to go to the drag strip.
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Yeah, let's go to the drag strip.
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So I took him to everything and you know, you've got a great NHRA event coming up in October down in Ennis.
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Okay, and if you ever want, I would encourage every dad especially, or grandfather, whatever if you've never been to an NHRA race, take them to see the real pros and do three-second, you know, 333-mile-an-hour runs, and it's quite impressive.
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It gives you a whole different side of our passion, if you will yes, sitting in your spot the nhra drivers.
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Okay, the uh, all the big, the big names, so they've been on as well.
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And one of the uh I guess one of the cool things about the nhra stuff that I remember from dad taking me when I was a little guy was uh, just all the the interaction that you get and uh absolutely compared to a lot of the other racing where it's harder to get access to the drivers and everything well as you know, you can go right to the pits and you're right there in the pits you're standing, you know, 10 feet away from them, tearing that car apart and putting it back together, and the driver's just part of it, right?
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And they'll get out and interacting and talking to everybody.
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Yeah, and there's nothing like a good cry session after they fire up one of those top fuel cars.
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A little nitromethane in the eye has never hurt anybody.
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They should make that a cologne for Christmas time or something.
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That would be good.
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I'd buy it.
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Well, stephen, it's great to talk to you.
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Congratulations on a beautiful truck.
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Thank you, and listen, don't sweat the little stuff, man.
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Enjoy the truck, nah.
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It's all good I can have fun with it the way it is right now you don't driving behind.
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Uh, the frame off would be to not be black anymore.
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Yeah, because I different color yeah, green I love the uh.
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I love the black.
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It looks good when it's clean, but it's uh I have a black car I know by the time I get to the back of it, it's time to go wipe the front off again.
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That's right, I no longer so.
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What color would you paint it?
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There was a color that I saw a few years ago.
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That's been in my mind.
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That was on a little Volvo SUV, but it was a.
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They called it Amazon Blue was the color, but it was kind of similar to a turquoise kind of in a little bit of a muted color.
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It's got a little bit of blue to it, a little bit of green tints to it.
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He's already got it picked out, I know have you priced a gallon of it, yet I know, but hopefully if it's being.
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Be sure you're sitting down when you do and you may need three gallons.
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So there's, that.
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Now would you paint it?
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yourself.
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No, no, no, no, I'm not a painter.
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You know I'm not afraid to get my hands into stuff, but luckily I do still have that filter in there of knowing when I'm biting off too much.
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You do, yes, exactly.
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I think we all do.
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There are people that know how to do this stuff better than I do.
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Well, hey, man, it's great to have you here.
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Thank you, you going back tomorrow.
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Tomorrow evening, after everything wraps up, are you going to do the?
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cruise this evening.
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I believe.
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So, yes, sir, good for you?
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Yeah, it's tons of fun.
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We just got off the hot rod tour of Texas.
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Okay.
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Are you familiar with that?
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I've heard of it that starts down around the coast somewhere.
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Yeah, Victoria.
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Well, every year they change a different pattern of where they're going to take the tour.
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They always start in Victoria.
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Yeah, they always start in Victoria.
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This year we went through the coast up and then through the eastern part, northern Houston, okay, piney Woods areas and things.
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I think we're going to be back to the hill country.
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We've been teased on this.
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You'd love it.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, All the ladies go to the wineries.
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We go to the wineries with them and it's a lot of fun.
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We get drug along for a change.
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It's good, it's good stuff.
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Well, stephen, it's great to talk to you.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you, yeah, best of luck to you.
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Hope to run into you again.
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